Limited Edition Team 5.10 Vs. Five Ten V10 Comparison

do you have wide or narrow feet? I have always loved 5.10 rubber but have always had a problem with their shoes because my feet are wide. any thoughts on the width of this shoe..

I abhor five10 because their fit is horrible for me. I have wide feet AND there’s so much room between my heel and the heel of the shoe.

On another note, I’ve often wondered why they have the holes in just the rubber on the toes of shoes (my Evolv Predators have them). Why not go through the fabric as well?

just for transparency, lynn, the speedster does not have total coverage on the outside side of the heel, just raised coverage. i do feel that it helps. i’ve used mine on some very very intense heel hooks already and i have been very pleased. currently, the speedster is my go-to shoe for heel hooking! that’s very strange for me since i traditionally woudl only use something with laces. for me, the fit and design is just really good.

as far as the rounded toe, narc, it climbs like a pair of broken in shoes. it does not have that chisel edge for insane front pointing, but you can cheat your way through with strong toes and “smedging” technique.

i would not grab these shoes for a face climb at my limit, or where a razor sharp toe is necessary. for instance, in a very bad perch move on the marble, i had good luck with using my testarossas instead of the speedster because the speedster was a tad too blunt and the one millimeter difference helped get behind that perching foot hold.

i would suggest that the comments about five ten’s soft shoe hold true for the speedster, generally: a fantastic shoe for the quiver, but not the main workhorse shoe.

that said, i’ve worn mine for most of what i’ve tried in the last two weeks without hesitation.

one great benefit of the rounded toe is that it would be impossible to delaminate the sole from the rand, which seems to be a common gripe.

with no further ado, lynn, let the testing begin! …. or re-commence?

because they are built on different (multiple) lasts. therefore universal sizing across lasts couldn’t be perfectly proportionate. therefore attemmting to tell the masses that shoes sizes are closer to being “the same across the board” will only lead to more confusion because in the end they are going to be different, yet now people are falsely comparing sizes to others. whereas if one sizes shoes independently from eachother they ensure a better fit- unbiased by faulty presupposition (i.e. this shoe should fit in a size 8.5 and does not)

i think that micro variation in the same size in the same model is an unfortunate byproduct of the manufacturing process. even batches of beer taste slightly different, if you are highly in tune. as climbers, we wear very very tight shoes, therefore making us highly intune with these variations that may not be noticable in casual shoes.

as far as sizing, i started this blog post a while back and i’d encourage more folks to post to it. someday, if i get enough imput, i’ll try to make an actual gridwork for sizing…

http://straightouttabedlamv7-2.blogspot.com/2009/02/master-list-of-comparitave-climing-shoe.html

oh my gOD!!! i want these shoes.