Over the weekend there was a tragic accident at West Virginia’s New River Gorge where a woman fell to her death from the anchors of a route she was preparing to clean. While the exact details are not clear, the informed speculation is that the potentially incorrect usage of Petzl STRINGs on both of the woman’s anchor slings could have caused the accident.
The scenario is a bit hard to explain in words, but this video does a pretty good job of depicting what can go wrong when you use rubber bands or something like the Petzl STRING on open webbing slings. There is also this explicit warning on the Petzl website that shows what can go wrong as well.
I don’t think I’ve ever used this kind of setup personally, but I’ll admit that I never realized the possible consequences of it either.
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Hopefully this sad story can at least have the positive effect of helping people avoid this potentially dangerous scenario.
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Obviously none of this speculation will help ease the pain of those who knew this woman.
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My thoughts are definitely with them in this tough time.
Tragic. We must learn from it. It is always a small unthinking choice that can cause such a disaster.
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That is awful, and WOW on the British video explaining the dangers of this setup. Scary. Thanks for the post.
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Hi y’all, this accident reminds me of a incident that occurred last year in CA with a helicopter crew of Forest Service wildland firefighters. During a training exercise the victim began to rappel from a hovering helicopter and fell to his death. During the aftermath it was learned that the locking ‘biners on his rig had been improperly attached, rather than aluminum intersecting aluminum, the ‘biners were held in place by a small rubber ring. Similar to the Petzl Strings, these little rings are a matter of convenience and not designed to take any significant load. They’re also small and unobtrusive and can easily give the impression that they are correctly aligned, even when there are critical flaws.
To compound the firefighter’s tragedy, his rig had been checked by several other team members, including supervisors, none of whom caught the mistake. I imagine that this climber’s partners, like most of us, have a similar safety-check routine, and I can’t imagine what it must have felt like to be there in the moments after the tragedy. My heart goes out to everyone involved.
In the firefighter example, the Forest Service is improving its protocols to make it more difficult for something like this to ever happen again, and there is currently a freeze on helicopter rappelling. Amongst us climbers, this incident might teach us all something about safety… I doubt Petzl will recall the strings, and I don’t think they should, but we all need to think about the gear choices we make and the doo-dads that we trust our lives to. We need to be using systems that are simple, easy to get right, easy to check and redundant. We all know what it’s like to be physically & emotionally strung out in sphincter-puckering territory and still need make instantaneous & crucial decisions. Those are moments when I want my gear to be idiot proof.
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First off so sorry to hear about what happened. This should turn focus to increasing popularity of sport/bouldering and the lack of info being passed on to the next generation. The kid that brought me into climbing knew NOTHING and had been into sport for a decade. Gym climbing makes people use to the sport without the risk and knoxledge. I was just as guilty for a period of time.
This issue has nothing to do with the petzel strings (never new that’s what they were called). This has to do with the draws that have multiple threads connecting the carabiners. I’ve seen those black diamonds do some scary things before. Spirits are the only thing found on my rack for a good reason.
My heart goes out to all those who knew this woman and hope that this will teach those to learn before doing. I know she would wish the same.
Safe crushing and double check your partner no matter how many years you’ve been crushin
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Unless you have other knowledge how can you say this has nothing to do with the STRINGs??
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I was speaking more in terms of the vid Narc. I don’t see how, if you are using the strings as they were intended on the spirits, that they could affect anything except stability in placing draws. If you use strings on smaller draws, or rig things like in the vid, it seems so clear how these things can malfunction. I’m not trying to hate on black diamond and by no means am I am petzel rep, but I’ve heard climbing guides show me specific examples on how if you climbing a route that zig zags that they can twist and really put people in dangger. I’m not communicating this well so I am sorry for that. I ran to my box of gear that has dust due to a little nagging year long injury to see how in the world a sring on a spirit could malfunction. I could not figure it out but if the string are defective petzel is going to have a massive law suite. Please narc keep us posted if there are any findings on petzel gear or recalls.
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As far as I know there’s been nothing in this incident that had to do with the Spirits. Those are the sorts of devices that band devices like the STRINGs are designed to be used safely with.
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I can agree with you on the fact that many climbers have no knowledge of these simple things. A buddy of mine has been climbing for way more years than me, but he knew nothing of trad, he top ropes off of the chains (with no carabiners), he repells off the chains with no biners. And when I tell him what he’s doing wrong, he wont take me seriously because he has more “climbing” experience than me.
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So you alway leave biners when you’re rapping down chains?!
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No. I meant he lowers off of the chains with no biners.
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“he repells off the chains with no biners.”
“I meant he lowers off of the chains with no biners.”
Solid advice bro…
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John sounds like ya got a good head on your shoulders. I had to stop climbing with certain friends cause the older I got the more I saw that their ignorance was putting me in danger. To put another way, tell him to shut the hell up and listen to ya so we can all be safer in the long run and crush for years to come.
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Sad news for sure, I’ve been using a similar setup for long-draws for a while…will be changing that for sure.
Good reminder though, always test yourself on the anchor before you untie the rope…atleast the next draw should catch you if something goes wrong.
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lowering off of chains makes the rope run through the chains with all of your weight on it.
With repelling, the only time the rope runs through the chains is when you’re pulling it through, after you’re already on the ground.
So yeah, it actually was solid advice…BRO
As for the accident, my sympathy go to her freinds and family
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Just have to chime in and say well said. Polaropposite’s comment shows the lack of knowledge…and I’m sure that he/she climbs well and that is even the scarier part BRO!?!?
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I’m trying to figure out why the “classic of the area” has rap rings instead of in-situ carabiners for lowering.
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I don’t know about at the New, but at the Red River Gorge it is fairly uncommon for routes to have carabiners on the chains. Where do you climb that this is surprising??
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It is pretty chilling to think about a fatality at an area like RRG. Thanks for posting the link to the video. I’d have never imagined such a scenario.
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Narc,
I climb mostly in the southwest. I haven’t seen a rap ring at a sport area, or even a mixed one in ages. The average route at least has chains or welded cold shuts. The 10a area classic at a well-traveled area usually has biners for speed, safety, and it easier to replace a biner than chain.
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This is more common in “newer” sport areas, from what I have seen. The Red, the New- all over the east/southeast you are more likely to find chains, rap anchors, or maybe just two bolt hangars staring back at you when you reach the finishing anchors.
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I find rap rings pointless and weak (150 lbs each?!). I can’t help but think that if she had not had to go off belay (yes, of course she should have tested the system with body weight first) to pull the rope and then rappel on said rings, this accident would have been avoided.
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I equip dozens of new routes each year, and have NO problem with people lowering through chains. If the chains are of sufficient quality (3/8″ proof coil) they are good for hundreds if not thousands of lowers, provided that the area doesn’t have unusual weathering situations (e.g. I’ve noticed that the grit at Smith Rocks tends to wear the chain prematurely). The bottom line is to INSPECT each element of the anchoring system before you commit to it. For a chain to be sufficiently weak for both sides to fail would require truly exceptional wear, and is easily avoided by rappelling (not spelling) from unworn links above.
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Lowering off the chain means that there are 10-20 loops, and if any single one of these or either bolt fails, it’s game over for you.
Any fixed rap ring I’d see around would be really thick and sturdy, and connected to two bolts with two separate chains (or directly to one bolt, chained to another).
Personally I like to put my rope through some metal loop that has separate connections to two bolts and inspecting this one loop with extra care. It’s simply the principle of minimizing the consequences of some random element failing.
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Not sure what kind of chain you’re talking about, but the ones I know have two bolts, connected with chains. So if you feed two elements of these there need to be at least 2 pieces of metal failing for you to deck.
Which is rather unlikely…
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Why was the climber not still on belay? If she clipped the anchors and yelled safe, she surely should still be on belay, with an overhand with a biner or something similar in place while threading??
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I believe she was planning on rapping off
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Lowering tip: http://www.pyb.co.uk/information/top-tips/top-tips-lowering.php (note, on this page the demonstrator has only one sling from harness to anchor. I always use two, one to each anchor.)
Check, double check, and then check again.
Of course if she was rapping down then that is different. Truly sad. I was at the red about a month ago when a girl decked from the second bolt. She went to hospital but released same day, no major injuries. It still spooked us all for the rest of the day.
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Two slings half inch webbing 24 inch sewn slings with Petzl strings were girth hitched to the harness. She was planning to rappel, and apparently clipped the anchors with both slings clipped so that the strings would be weighted and break. Normally, the climber should clip the anchor with two quick draws and then clip into the anchor with both harness slings and FULlY weight test the slings before being taken off belay. Because of the generous ledge/stance, the slings were probably not FULLY tested before being taken off belay. If they had been, the Petzel Strings would have broken, and the belayer would have caught the climber, like a fall on top rope. I think that the test was probably a moderate one, and the belay was called off. When the climber got in position to set up the rappel, the slings were FULLY weighted and broke, resulting in a fall to the ground.
If you plan to rappel, always FULLY weight your connection points (slings, draws, cord, daisy chain, Metolius PAS, etc.) BEFORE you get taken off of belay. If your connection points fail for whatever reason, you are still on belay.
If the connection slings fail, then reconnect to the anchor with corrected/reliable connection points, FULLY weight as a test, and if they good, then you can go off of belay to rappel, or thread through to lower. If threading through for lowering, the climber should ALWAYS be kept on belay with slack given as needed.
Having a plan before climbing, and communicating the plan to your climbing partner before leaving the ground is very important. Make sure both partners know how to respond to each other’s climbing/belaying commands, and know how to rappel and clean anchors and test the procedures. I recommend practicing on ground level to make sure the procedure are correct before applying the rappel or anchor cleaning procedures to real anchors. Please get qualified instruction.
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