Climbers Archives: Joe Kinder

Kinder Kind Of Climbers

In the nearly 1,000 posts about Junipergate on Supertopo I found at least one redeeming item in the form of this post on Wavehaven Adventures:

If someone proclaims that they are the most influential rock star around, then they better be able to produce the whole package. The package, as the saying goes, is that with freedom comes responsibility.
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Kinder’s freedom to climb just about anywhere in the world as a professional climber is an incredible luxury. One might think that as a world wide climbing ambassador he would follow basic ethical standards set forth through the collective climbing community.
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He botched it big time by breaking that trust, but in some ways so has the climbing community. Trashing him is so blatantly counter-productive. If the community would stop bitching him out and take a deep breath we might actually get something more constructive out of this- like giving Kinder a chance to redeem himself.
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My Actions, My Responsibility, And My Mistake

Joe Kinder, writing on his blog about an incident that took place recently near Tahoe:

To make a long story short, I was recently informed that I had done something wrong last month while establishing new routes at an underground crag in the Tahoe region of California. I cut down two trees. Not just any trees, either. Junipers.

I’d like to try to address and speak about the specifics of my actions, but in doing so, I want to make no mistake that this was a regrettable error on my part. I am deeply apologetic about what I did. I was wrong. I F’d up. And I’m very sorry. Now, I’m using my blog, my voice and my position in the climbing community to bring awareness to an important issue of route development in order to prevent people who may be as ignorant as I once was from doing this in the future.

There’s no doubt that this was a bad mistake, and Kinder should have known better1.  He only compounded his problems when he tried to hide from the situation by deleting any evidence from social media and denying what happened according to this story on the Adventure Journal.

Unfortunately, in today’s time there is the story about what actually happened and then there is the story about how people respond to what happened.  Kinder puts himself out there more than most climbers do which is usually to his benefit, but this has also put him in the position that many people are looking for the first reason to tear him down.  This nearly 500 post long SuperTopo thread got hundreds of posts deep before anyone even knew what they were really yelling about, and the armchair internet judgement from most post posters has been swift and resolute:  Joe Kinder is the worst person ever.  This sort of mob mentality is not unique to the climbing world by any stretch, but its seeming ubiquity in our society today doesn’t make it any more right or constructive.

At this point no amount of criticism or apologizing will change what happened, so in my mind what is most important is what can happen going forward.  Actions speak louder than words.  The ball is in Kinder’s court.

  1. Incidentally, this is not the first time he has issued a mea culpa for his actions as a route developer
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Escalada En España: Playing Nice With Chris Sharma

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Two 5.14c’s By Joe Kinder In Utah

Joe Kinder recently ticked off two 5.14c’s in Utah which he recapped in this blog post full of some great pictures and this quote that really applies to all of us:

My GAWD I was psyched.  Put it this way… GOALS WERE ALL MET!  What more could I ask for?!?!  Two 8c+ routes (2nd ascents I believe) in a week just sounds cool to me.  I mean really, I am not Adam Ondra or anyone that bad ass, but shit man… when you send your projects you feel like THE MAN!!!  I love that and have gotten a few good doses of it and now i need more…

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Two Repeats Of Bunda De Fora (5.14d) By Muller, Kinder

Lev Pinter’s Bunda De Fora (5.14d) at the limestone crag Acephale in Canada’s Bow Valley recently saw two repeats at the hands of Josh Muller and Joe Kinder.  Kinder has a great blog post about the process of working this route that includes pictures of both him and Muller attempting it that is well worth checking out. Here’s how Kinder framed his mentality when approaching the route as a project:

This trip to The Bow Valley was a test.  It was an experiment to gun it for one route, Bunda De Fora.  The drive up was a little anxiety ridden with the idea (that I kept to myself), that I was going to buckle down on one hard project, period.
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 I mean there were surely plan b, but this was what I wanted.  The climber mentality of “this is the most important thing in the world” is so obnoxious sometimes.
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 I mean we aren’t saving anyone or doing anything other than an activity that makes us happy and satisfies us.  Ridiculous I know.  But… this is truly what it takes to be invested in hard climbing.

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Joe Kinder’s Summer Road Trip: Chapter 5 – Portland, OR

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Joe Kinder’s Summer Road Trip: Chapter 2 – Riggins, Idaho

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