Chris Lindner Repeats Girl Talk (5.14c)

Posted September 15, 2009 at 6:45 pm · Comments { 12 } ·

Fresh off a move to Colorado, Chris Lindner has done the 8th 9th (at least) ascent of Dave Graham’s Girl Talk (5.14c) at Rifle, CO according to the Maxim Ropes Facebook page.

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  • http://www.BSProductions.us Brian Solano

    Footage of Joe Kinder on Girl Talk in The Players!!!

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  • Eggbert

    IMO it’s not “Dave Graham’s Girl Talk”. It’s a stolen route. It’s Andy Raether’s. Small point perhaps, but it bums me out. ce

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    • http://climbingnarc.com Narc

      I’m more or less with you on that one, but what’s done is done at this point and I didn’t want to rehash that whole saga.

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    • the past

      i agree. andy did put a lot of work into the route, so there should be some respect. but it could also be karma? perhaps he’s stolen a project or two?

      things eventully come full circle…as the stories goes.

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  • Eggbert

    Word. Retracted. ce

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  • Phunk

    Andy Raether had the vision and did all the work to equip it, and Dave finally got Andy to agree to let him climb it.

    I know Andy was injured at the time and I’m sure Dave was very persuasive, but I don’t see how it makes the route “stolen.”

    More to the point: Congrats to Chris for the send! He seems to be settling back in at Rifle quite nicely.

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  • john

    red tags are gay, the jury is still out on Dave and Andy.
    Props to Lick though.

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  • Adrian

    hehe, deadpoint has a news blurb on their homepage saying Chris Linder got the 2nd ascent of Girl Talk. Mayhaps they need to do a little more fact checking.

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    • http://climbingnarc.com Narc

      Oops. Hopefully that doesn’t make it into print like last month’s “news” about Ethan Pringle.

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  • bradweaver

    james litz repeated it this summer as well

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  • http://climbingnarc.com Narc

    Nice, thanks for the update Brad.

    While I’ve always sympathized with Andy’s position on this route, doesn’t the fact that it’s been climbed almost 10 times in a little over a year somewhat vindicate the position of Dave Graham, Joe Kinder, et al?? If they hadn’t insisted on climbing the route, it would likely still be closed.

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  • ryan

    No it doesn’t vindicate Graham’s position at all. If all those “pros” can climb it in just a few tries and yet the line was never bolted it proves how important the developer is to the area. Do you think none of them saw the line? When is the last time Dave Graham bolted a line in Colorado? Could it be never? Another question is how exactly does that advance the sport? Its not the hardest line in the canyon. If i run a 4:50 mile it doesn’t advance running. Its just another run. All the act did was discourage a local developer

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