‘Gravity works’; excuse me but ‘gravity’ is an ex-post description of what happens when one falls, gravity is a subject of the falling individual , the individual is not the object of gravity. Silly Americans, no wonder you guys get confused so easily 😛
gravity is the force acting on another object attracting the climber to the larger object, i.e. the ground. the inability of the climber to create a force equal an opposite to this, allows the climber to fall. But that really misses the point, which is, you are likely to fall, and as such, you may get hurt.
Gravity is a force. Physically, Work=Force*Distance. So if you fall, gravity is doing work equal to the force of gravity times the distance you fall, so in this sense, gravity ‘works.’ And gravity is the reason you fall, not an ex-post description of someone falling.
‘Gravity’ is not causal, a fall could be attributed to thousands (or perhaps an infinite number) of different ‘mechanical’ descriptions, because the theoretical (in this case Newtonian) framework is in a logical sense ‘valid’ does not mean that an element of that system can then be brought into the system of material causality, to do so is logically invalid. Cf. any work on logic by Godel,Frege, or Russell will do.
Oh and btw ‘gravity’ must be ex post, unless of course you believe that things moved differently in relation to one and other before the Principia,now a world that worked like that would be fun! 🙂
Interesting video, i wonder if Tito’s unfortunate death was
any influence on the making of this video? On a separate note, did
any one else notice Adidas and Redbull logos splayed out on
Ms.Digiulian? The video looked to me for a second, as something out
of a golf commercial or tennis interview. Is this where climbing is
headed? Into a mainstream swirl of commercials? Will climbing ever
become something like hockey, for example, where we no longer look
at them as truly skilled athletes and just see “hockey players”.
Will climbing ever become as desensitized as some more common
sports? Makes me kinda regret all the times i said ” yeah man,
everyone should start climbing”…
Your right I have never played hockey, however that was only an example. I was trying to illustrate how common place some very difficult activities have become, to the point where they are so common that people who know nothing about them (me!) are unimpressed. I wonder if this is due in part to sponsorship attempting to toss their logos around by getting top notch climbers to appear in more popular media, more often until the point where sending 14s is no longer impressive.
does anyone remember the climbing magazine commercial where a climber ( i forget who) has a mag taped to the wall and is claiming that it helps keep him motivated on his redpoint? By allowing non-climbing sponsors like, adidas and redbull, to sponsor climbers will climbers ever become just another extreme athlete in the eyes of the public? Traditionally climbing sponsors seem to be pretty understanding of their athletes individuiality. I’m curious to see if new sponsors begin demanding their climbers to do things we wouldn’t see them doing otherwise.
What im wondering is if new age sponsors who don’t understand climbing will end up changing the activity through skewed representation to the public?
Chris, watch out! There’s something on your face! New style for climbers everywhere in 2014.
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‘Gravity works’; excuse me but ‘gravity’ is an ex-post description of what happens when one falls, gravity is a subject of the falling individual , the individual is not the object of gravity. Silly Americans, no wonder you guys get confused so easily 😛
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You and Mrs. Narc would get along well
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gravity is the force acting on another object attracting the climber to the larger object, i.e. the ground. the inability of the climber to create a force equal an opposite to this, allows the climber to fall. But that really misses the point, which is, you are likely to fall, and as such, you may get hurt.
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Gravity is a force. Physically, Work=Force*Distance. So if you fall, gravity is doing work equal to the force of gravity times the distance you fall, so in this sense, gravity ‘works.’ And gravity is the reason you fall, not an ex-post description of someone falling.
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‘Gravity’ is not causal, a fall could be attributed to thousands (or perhaps an infinite number) of different ‘mechanical’ descriptions, because the theoretical (in this case Newtonian) framework is in a logical sense ‘valid’ does not mean that an element of that system can then be brought into the system of material causality, to do so is logically invalid. Cf. any work on logic by Godel,Frege, or Russell will do.
Oh and btw ‘gravity’ must be ex post, unless of course you believe that things moved differently in relation to one and other before the Principia,now a world that worked like that would be fun! 🙂
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Hey d, your undergrad institution called and they want their philosophy degree back.
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haha, not quite
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Gravity isn’t a force it’s an acceleration, which then
makes a force on a mass.
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Interesting video, i wonder if Tito’s unfortunate death was
any influence on the making of this video? On a separate note, did
any one else notice Adidas and Redbull logos splayed out on
Ms.Digiulian? The video looked to me for a second, as something out
of a golf commercial or tennis interview. Is this where climbing is
headed? Into a mainstream swirl of commercials? Will climbing ever
become something like hockey, for example, where we no longer look
at them as truly skilled athletes and just see “hockey players”.
Will climbing ever become as desensitized as some more common
sports? Makes me kinda regret all the times i said ” yeah man,
everyone should start climbing”…
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If you look at hockey players and do not see truly skilled
athletes, then you never played hockey, and as a hockey player I
take offense!
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Your right I have never played hockey, however that was only an example. I was trying to illustrate how common place some very difficult activities have become, to the point where they are so common that people who know nothing about them (me!) are unimpressed. I wonder if this is due in part to sponsorship attempting to toss their logos around by getting top notch climbers to appear in more popular media, more often until the point where sending 14s is no longer impressive.
does anyone remember the climbing magazine commercial where a climber ( i forget who) has a mag taped to the wall and is claiming that it helps keep him motivated on his redpoint? By allowing non-climbing sponsors like, adidas and redbull, to sponsor climbers will climbers ever become just another extreme athlete in the eyes of the public? Traditionally climbing sponsors seem to be pretty understanding of their athletes individuiality. I’m curious to see if new sponsors begin demanding their climbers to do things we wouldn’t see them doing otherwise.
What im wondering is if new age sponsors who don’t understand climbing will end up changing the activity through skewed representation to the public?
And chris i did , what hand eye co-ordination!
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You’ve clearly never youtube’d ‘Pavel Datsyuk.’
You should. It’s endlessly entertaining.
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“every day when you walk into a climbing gym, you have to know the risks, rules and regulations”.
Wouldn’t have heard that 20 years ago when all basic life-safety instruction was outside to begin with!
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