Dani Andrada: La Obsesión

Posted February 13, 2012 at 5:56 am · Comments { 10 } ·

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10 Responses to Dani Andrada: La Obsesión

  1. Neil February 13, 2012 at 8:01 pm #

    Mad beta spray.

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    • Paul February 14, 2012 at 12:04 am #

      What?

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  2. Joshjanes February 14, 2012 at 10:05 am #

    Andrada’s “litter is much worse than chipping” attitude is fukt.  

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    • Davidsahalie February 15, 2012 at 7:30 am #

      why? some elements of climbers may be opposed to chipping, but litter is worse from the public perspective.

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      • Chris February 15, 2012 at 11:59 am #

        Litter can be cleaned up. Holds can’t be unchipped.

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        • Bert February 15, 2012 at 7:36 pm #

          I see your point, but you can’t unkill a dolphin that becomes entangled and dies due to ocean litter.  This may not exactly relate to your local crag, but there ARE litter related effects that are irreversible for a wide range of ecological functions.

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        • Rjtrials February 16, 2012 at 7:25 am #

          Litter can cause sectors or entire crags to be closed to all future climbing.  chipping is just mildly frustrating, and only if you are on the specific climb, and only if u chose to use those holds.

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        • TheDanDan February 16, 2012 at 9:17 am #

          Crag closures are still reversible. Maybe you won’t get to climb there, but if people can get their act together, perhaps your grandchildren could.

          For people who get their inspiration from climbing on the unique, natural arrangements of holds and features provided by natural geologic processes, chipping can be massively depressing and demotivating. Just because you only find it ‘mildly frustrating’ doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same way. I really don’t like to see physical evidence of the cowardice and lack of vision that leads people to chip. 

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        • chris February 16, 2012 at 11:36 am #

          I’m not trying to downplay the importance of keeping crags clean. I expect people to use them without littering or defiling the stone.

          But there is a big difference between the guy that leaves a clif bar wrapper behind and the guy that drills a new pocket or two.

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    • Stephen Palermo February 16, 2012 at 3:49 pm #

      I don’t litter being worse then chipping or visa-versa, but more as entirely separate issues. I think their both bad, but Andrada has chosen to focus his efforts on the cleanliness of a crag rather then the quality of its routes. In the US where “natural routes” are more the norm, its easy to not see his point, but in Spain where because of the massive influx of international climbers, world class areas like Margalef are in danger of being shut down or limited due to litter, so naturally chipping would be less of a concern. 

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