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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-13805</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candie, 

Before we talk off this forum I must inform you that I will be taking legal counsel with respect to the statements you have made. 

My responsibility also lies with the manufacturer and I will be sending them a link for them to view the statements made and take any action they feel appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candie, </p>
<p>Before we talk off this forum I must inform you that I will be taking legal counsel with respect to the statements you have made. </p>
<p>My responsibility also lies with the manufacturer and I will be sending them a link for them to view the statements made and take any action they feel appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Candie</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-13803</link>
		<dc:creator>Candie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel -

Absoutely.  Please email me at candief@eldowalls.com and we will set something up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel -</p>
<p>Absoutely.  Please email me at <a href="mailto:candief@eldowalls.com">candief@eldowalls.com</a> and we will set something up.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-13802</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Candie, 

I have been alerted by a very happy customer of ours to this thread. I&#039;m not one for blogging, but I&#039;ll give it a go. 

I&#039;m an honest guy, so I am Dan Griffiths of Applied Safety Solutions Ltd based in the UK. We are the company appointed by North Safety to responsibly distribute the North Controlled Descent Device. 

I am alarmed by some of your comments and wondered if you would like to discuss some of the issues you have raised??????

I&#039;d like to ask specifically about the one way clutch. Fancy a chat??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Candie, </p>
<p>I have been alerted by a very happy customer of ours to this thread. I&#8217;m not one for blogging, but I&#8217;ll give it a go. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m an honest guy, so I am Dan Griffiths of Applied Safety Solutions Ltd based in the UK. We are the company appointed by North Safety to responsibly distribute the North Controlled Descent Device. </p>
<p>I am alarmed by some of your comments and wondered if you would like to discuss some of the issues you have raised??????</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to ask specifically about the one way clutch. Fancy a chat??</p>
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		<title>By: Candie Fisher</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-13795</link>
		<dc:creator>Candie Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff, my intention in posting about the TRUBLUE Auto Belay was to provide another option for the readers of this thread.

Our research shows that the TRUBLUE auto belay is the only auto belay to meet US, Canada and NZ/Australia safety standards for fall arrest devices.  The North Safety unit it the only other auto belay we know of that meets fall arrest safety standards, but this is for Europe only.

On our website we list the safety standards with which the TRUBLUE auto belay complies.  This can be found at http://www.climbtru.com/trublue-auto-belay/safety-standards/

The magnetic system does have a track record of almost a year in field testing, as well as 4 years in development and safety testing.

My statement was that &quot;we believe&quot; that this is the best option.  This is not conceited...it is a fact.  Because we believe that this the best option, we have purchased the company and distributing the product.  We are not the only climbing wall company distributing the TRUBLUE.  Rockwerx and EP will also be distributing this product.

As far as the bearing issue, you have a point that I do not have evidence on my post backing up this statement.  My understanding is that the bearing in the centrifugal unit wears over time and is therefore a potential point of failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff, my intention in posting about the TRUBLUE Auto Belay was to provide another option for the readers of this thread.</p>
<p>Our research shows that the TRUBLUE auto belay is the only auto belay to meet US, Canada and NZ/Australia safety standards for fall arrest devices.  The North Safety unit it the only other auto belay we know of that meets fall arrest safety standards, but this is for Europe only.</p>
<p>On our website we list the safety standards with which the TRUBLUE auto belay complies.  This can be found at <a href="http://www.climbtru.com/trublue-auto-belay/safety-standards/" rel="nofollow">http://www.climbtru.com/trublue-auto-belay/safety-standards/</a></p>
<p>The magnetic system does have a track record of almost a year in field testing, as well as 4 years in development and safety testing.</p>
<p>My statement was that &#8220;we believe&#8221; that this is the best option.  This is not conceited&#8230;it is a fact.  Because we believe that this the best option, we have purchased the company and distributing the product.  We are not the only climbing wall company distributing the TRUBLUE.  Rockwerx and EP will also be distributing this product.</p>
<p>As far as the bearing issue, you have a point that I do not have evidence on my post backing up this statement.  My understanding is that the bearing in the centrifugal unit wears over time and is therefore a potential point of failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-13755</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 17:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just finished reading Candie&#039;s post and feel that it&#039;s a very arrogant and unprofessional way to PR your product. The thing that concerns me the most is that Candie is not being truthful and makes a lot of misleading statements.

Here are the facts:

-TruBlue is NOT the only auto belay to meet international safety standards. A number of other belays were engineered to meet those standards. So this is simply NOT TRU. :)))

-TruBlue has not provided ANY evidence of the safety certifications it has. Although it has been &#039;engineered to meet the standards&#039; there is no official proof that it actually meets them!

-Candie makes a dangerous statement that clutch bearing is a &#039;key potential point of failure in modular auto belay systems&#039;. However, she does NOT provide any evidence that this is so. Clutch bearing auto belays have been around for almost 20 years and we still don&#039;t know what caused the MSA recall. Was it clutch bearing or something else in the belay? Either way, she makes an empty assumption to toot her own horn.

-The magnetic system has absolutely NO TRACK RECORD and we have no idea how it will perform in field conditions a year or two years from now.

Finally the statement that TruBlue is &#039;the best option and will set new standard in auto belays&#039; is very conceited. This belay has not even been on the market and has not proven to be better than hydraulic or centrifugal break belays. 

Making loud statements such as this one before the product has even proven itself does not reflect well on the company or its employees. Definitely something to keep in mind when researching auto belay options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just finished reading Candie&#8217;s post and feel that it&#8217;s a very arrogant and unprofessional way to PR your product. The thing that concerns me the most is that Candie is not being truthful and makes a lot of misleading statements.</p>
<p>Here are the facts:</p>
<p>-TruBlue is NOT the only auto belay to meet international safety standards. A number of other belays were engineered to meet those standards. So this is simply NOT TRU. <img src='http://climbingnarc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))</p>
<p>-TruBlue has not provided ANY evidence of the safety certifications it has. Although it has been &#8216;engineered to meet the standards&#8217; there is no official proof that it actually meets them!</p>
<p>-Candie makes a dangerous statement that clutch bearing is a &#8216;key potential point of failure in modular auto belay systems&#8217;. However, she does NOT provide any evidence that this is so. Clutch bearing auto belays have been around for almost 20 years and we still don&#8217;t know what caused the MSA recall. Was it clutch bearing or something else in the belay? Either way, she makes an empty assumption to toot her own horn.</p>
<p>-The magnetic system has absolutely NO TRACK RECORD and we have no idea how it will perform in field conditions a year or two years from now.</p>
<p>Finally the statement that TruBlue is &#8216;the best option and will set new standard in auto belays&#8217; is very conceited. This belay has not even been on the market and has not proven to be better than hydraulic or centrifugal break belays. </p>
<p>Making loud statements such as this one before the product has even proven itself does not reflect well on the company or its employees. Definitely something to keep in mind when researching auto belay options.</p>
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		<title>By: Candie</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-13751</link>
		<dc:creator>Candie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We recently launched the TRUBLUE Auto Belay (www.climbtru.com).  It is designed for the climbing industry and is the only auto belay engineered to meet international safety standards (US, Canada, Europe, NZ, Australia) and has undergone extensive testing by an ISO 17025 certified lab specializing in product safety testing.  

The TRUBLUE uses a self-regulating magentic braking system, which eliminates the needs for a clutch bearing (a key potential point of failure in previous and current modular auto bealy designs).  TRUBLUE is owned by Eldorado Climbing Walls, and we think it is the best option on the market and will set a new standard in auto belays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We recently launched the TRUBLUE Auto Belay (www.climbtru.com).  It is designed for the climbing industry and is the only auto belay engineered to meet international safety standards (US, Canada, Europe, NZ, Australia) and has undergone extensive testing by an ISO 17025 certified lab specializing in product safety testing.  </p>
<p>The TRUBLUE uses a self-regulating magentic braking system, which eliminates the needs for a clutch bearing (a key potential point of failure in previous and current modular auto bealy designs).  TRUBLUE is owned by Eldorado Climbing Walls, and we think it is the best option on the market and will set a new standard in auto belays.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-12160</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were able to find replacement units that can be easily swapped for Red Points. We&#039;re currently providing them to our existing customers but if you need 2 units we can order those for you. Please e-mail me if you need them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were able to find replacement units that can be easily swapped for Red Points. We&#8217;re currently providing them to our existing customers but if you need 2 units we can order those for you. Please e-mail me if you need them.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-12089</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can contact me directly at daniel@safeclimb.com. For more information about the auto belay go to www.safeclimb.com and more information about the company you can find at www.climbpyramide.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can contact me directly at <a href="mailto:daniel@safeclimb.com">daniel@safeclimb.com</a>. For more information about the auto belay go to <a href="http://www.safeclimb.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.safeclimb.com</a> and more information about the company you can find at <a href="http://www.climbpyramide.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.climbpyramide.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-12088</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you send me contact details for your company and the cost of your type of descender pleaSE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you send me contact details for your company and the cost of your type of descender pleaSE</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://climbingnarc.com/2009/12/msa-redpoint-descender-auto-belay-discontinued-indefinitely/comment-page-1/#comment-12038</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. There is an alternative system!

A lot of our existing customers for whom we built climbing walls have been coming to us complaining about this problem. 

We have a solution that is similar in size and shape to the Red Points. It has a double centrifugal break system and can be easily swapped for the Red Point Descenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. There is an alternative system!</p>
<p>A lot of our existing customers for whom we built climbing walls have been coming to us complaining about this problem. </p>
<p>We have a solution that is similar in size and shape to the Red Points. It has a double centrifugal break system and can be easily swapped for the Red Point Descenders.</p>
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