Comments on: 2009 ABS 10 Nationals Adult Bouldering Championships Results http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/ So obsessed with climbing it hurts... Thu, 24 May 2012 15:07:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Narc http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4762 Narc Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:16:00 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4762 I don't remember a huge check last year but I'm pretty sure there was money involved. I don’t remember a huge check last year but I’m pretty sure there was money involved.

]]> By: Luke http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4761 Luke Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:13:10 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4761 I don't remember any huge checks in 2007 or 2008... I don’t remember any huge checks in 2007 or 2008…

]]> By: Narc http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4757 Narc Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:40:02 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4757 Excellent points. # of tops followed by # of bonuses might make more sense with # of attempts for each to break ties after that. As far as the right people being on the podium, the Men's top 3 was fairly clear cut. For the women, I think the scoring system left things a bit less clear. That could be partly because of the system or the way the problems worked out, I don't really know. Alex Puccio <i>looked</i> like the strongest competitor but her one fall on problem #3 really cost her. Excellent points. # of tops followed by # of bonuses might make more sense with # of attempts for each to break ties after that.

As far as the right people being on the podium, the Men’s top 3 was fairly clear cut. For the women, I think the scoring system left things a bit less clear. That could be partly because of the system or the way the problems worked out, I don’t really know. Alex Puccio looked like the strongest competitor but her one fall on problem #3 really cost her.

]]> By: Jamie Chong http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4756 Jamie Chong Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:33:00 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4756 The scoring system puts a lot of emphasis on onsighting. It really counts if you get to the top or the bonus hold first try. Getting tops in fewer tries is weighted more than getting bonuses. However, I agree that it sometimes doesn't make sense when the situation with Julian Bautista arises. It might seem fairer to score # of tops, # of bonuses, # of attemps to top, # of attempts to bonus. All that being said, we've been using this scoring system in Canada (especially western Canada) for years now. The experience with the scoring system has allowed our athletes (Sean McColl) to excel in World Cup competitions held in Europe - the center of the World's competitive scene. At least we're finally beginning to see these events held in North America, thanks to Vail. Using the same scoring system at all events will have a positive impact on your results in international events. And really, in the end, did the scoring system fail your top competitors? You still saw the people you expected to see on the podium for both male and female categories. The scoring system puts a lot of emphasis on onsighting. It really counts if you get to the top or the bonus hold first try. Getting tops in fewer tries is weighted more than getting bonuses. However, I agree that it sometimes doesn’t make sense when the situation with Julian Bautista arises. It might seem fairer to score # of tops, # of bonuses, # of attemps to top, # of attempts to bonus.

All that being said, we’ve been using this scoring system in Canada (especially western Canada) for years now. The experience with the scoring system has allowed our athletes (Sean McColl) to excel in World Cup competitions held in Europe – the center of the World’s competitive scene. At least we’re finally beginning to see these events held in North America, thanks to Vail. Using the same scoring system at all events will have a positive impact on your results in international events.

And really, in the end, did the scoring system fail your top competitors? You still saw the people you expected to see on the podium for both male and female categories.

]]> By: matt http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4739 matt Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:00:28 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4739 A full report with more photos is on http://www.deadpointmag.com A full report with more photos is on http://www.deadpointmag.com

]]> By: Narc http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4737 Narc Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:53:55 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4737 We didn't stick around for the results for the youth comp. They haven't been posted on the USA Climbing website yet either. We didn’t stick around for the results for the youth comp. They haven’t been posted on the USA Climbing website yet either.

]]> By: steve schultz http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4736 steve schultz Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:53:02 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4736 Hey Brian, any word on any of the youth or junior results? Hey Brian, any word on any of the youth or junior results?

]]> By: Jamie http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4735 Jamie Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:50:36 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4735 Brian, thanks for the explanation. The scoring system is not a good one, but as this is the qualifier for the World Cup, its one that should be used. Hopefully the World Cup with realize that their system is flawed, and change things soon. Brian, thanks for the explanation. The scoring system is not a good one, but as this is the qualifier for the World Cup, its one that should be used. Hopefully the World Cup with realize that their system is flawed, and change things soon.

]]> By: Brian Solano http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4734 Brian Solano Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:14:22 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4734 There will be raw highlights on MVM in the next few days. Stay tuned.. There will be raw highlights on MVM in the next few days. Stay tuned..

]]> By: Narc http://climbingnarc.com/2009/02/abs-10-national-bouldering-championships-results/comment-page-1/#comment-4732 Narc Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:20:21 +0000 http://climbingnarc.com/?p=2552#comment-4732 Thanks. It certainly helps when I can be at the comp as far as posting results goes. I'm not sure if there will be video online or not. Chuck F had a team on hand to shoot for video shown on screens during the comp. I have yet to see the SA footage but Woods was in pretty good form last night, that's for sure. Thanks. It certainly helps when I can be at the comp as far as posting results goes.

I’m not sure if there will be video online or not. Chuck F had a team on hand to shoot for video shown on screens during the comp.

I have yet to see the SA footage but Woods was in pretty good form last night, that’s for sure.

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