Comments on: Joe’s Valley Trip Beta Needed

By: Anthony Chertudi

Anthony Chertudi — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:06:51 +0000

If you like I’ll give you a full tour!

By: Enjoying Variety, from Joshua Tree to Joe’s Valley « Dream in Vertical

Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:25:32 +0000

[...] Valley , a new area for all of us. It seems the weather should hold up and with the help of the web we have a full plate of things to [...]

By: Eric

Eric — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:05:36 +0000

JJ – “pit toilet face”? Really?? ;P
I’m sitting here in the law school library next to a treatise on defamation… Hmm….

By: Narc

Narc — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:19:31 +0000

Thanks a bunch Chris, the more info the better. Do you think it would be too hot in Hueco by mid-april? We don’t require “perfect” conditions, just sub-80 would be nice.

#6 is a constant thought on my mind, yet a difficult one to rationalize given the current state of the economy.

Have fun in Font!

By: chris

chris — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:07:13 +0000

hi there..
I’ll throw in my two cents, though hardly a need, you have a full page of good info.
I’ve spent a lot of time in Joes, and I can say
1) if you only have a week, dont leave for anywhere. April is pleasant, and the setting is beautiful
2) camp free- see above
3) the black guide. let me emphasize the .
4) maxi pad, team effort, wind below, wills o fire, the angler, skip area 51, skip smokin joe boulder, do FAs in the left fork. there are MANY boulders.
5)nothing but desolation surrounds joes, for many miles. the towns are very sad and strange. I cannot emphasize this enough. it makes for uneasiness undefinable. Odd.
6) move away from the mid”west”. i imagine this has occurred.
7) hueco is about as far! many developed problems, obviously. If you’ve been to one, though, go to the other. they are both equal in my mind, yet I prefer joes slightly more, for assorted reasons. if you’ve never been to hueco, and it is equally possible, go to hueco. for instance, if you could climb midnight lightning, and it was in front of you, you would, right? hueco is a necessary tick.
good luck, and have fun!

By: JPWill

JPWill — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:26:51 +0000

yeah, sorry, i’m a bit over-zealous about re-grading The Wind Below, and it’s not an obvious hold until it’s pointed out, but it is right in the middle of the line. No detriment to the previous beta, I think it’s a proud line and a difficult move the way I’ve seen it done on the videos online, but I was blown away to watch several people flash it in a row. nonetheless, for a pansy like me, it makes the line not to difficult physically, without detracting from the mental crux of the high move into the pocket jug.

There’s a couple of seams that come together just above the second large rail…. right in there…

By: sock hands

sock hands — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:02:47 +0000

wow, i never new about the mono. i would argue it’s a huge stretch to call the wind below contrived, but if folks eschew the newly discovered hold for a harder tick, then i guess it would be warranted. suffice to say that in the first two years of existance of this line, i never heard about this hold/beta ever ever. never saw it, but holds in the joe’s sandstone can be very difficult to spot if not chalked up and you’ve got your blinders on.

hmm

By: JPWill

JPWill — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:18:09 +0000

if you take a look at some of the video clips, there’s first a really large move from one big rail to another big rail. from here you see the climbers make a large lockoff to a small crimp, and then lock this left hand crimp down to get a right hand crimp.

From the big rail, you can get a right hand mono– it’s where a couple of seams come together– get your heel up, then move to the first left small crimp.

I’m not making this up

By: Narc

Narc — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:21:46 +0000

Ever the contrarian eh? I will shoot you an email if we decide to check out that canyon.

By: Narc

Narc — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:18:31 +0000

Thanks for all the beta JP. Your comment got flagged because of the links which is why it might have disappeared.

Whereabouts on Wind below is this hidden mono?

I’ll definitely hit you up for some more info before we leave.